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Re: Double Deckers

Posted: 10:10 Saturday 10th August 2019
by DD12
Thanks willr7 and Adam for that interesting stuff !!

Re: Double Deckers

Posted: 15:29 Saturday 10th August 2019
by Charliedaffin
If indeed we do get some B9TLs from manchester, could we possibly see some in the salt road livery, due to the increase in use of DDs on the 144a?

Re: Double Deckers

Posted: 22:35 Saturday 10th August 2019
by winston
AdamH wrote:
05:21 Saturday 10th August 2019
I believe some of that fleet are heading to the Midlands, but not Worcester and not double-decks! Nine StreetLites to Leicester and three to Potteries have been mentioned elsewhere.
The Streetlites First Manchester have are all allocated to Oldham. I believe there have been a number of service cuts from Sept which could release those.

There's also a question mark over where Bolton's 11 x 11 plate B7RLE's / Wright will end up (69521-31)? I did wonder whether they might join the 59 plate examples at Leicester from Wells.

Re: Double Deckers

Posted: 00:38 Sunday 11th August 2019
by DD12
Charliedaffin wrote:
15:29 Saturday 10th August 2019
If indeed we do get some B9TLs from manchester, could we possibly see some in the salt road livery, due to the increase in use of DDs on the 144a?
I would love us to have some DDs in Salt Road livery (or the same green livery), but ideally upgraded to Euro 6 emissions control for use, sooner or later, in B'ham ( - where there is going to be a restriction +/or financial penalty for using cars which do not comply with the emissions requirements).

I would like FMR (or successor) to keep it's four Euro 6 StreetDecks (35156 -59) to support this.

The recent possible increased use of DDs on the 144A might not be down to increased number of passengers (?), but down to increased utilisation of DDs while single-deckers are being maintained (and similar), and allowing the maximum number of SPARE single-deckers to be available for single-decker-only routes.

Re: Double Deckers

Posted: 06:43 Sunday 11th August 2019
by AdamH
DD12 wrote:
00:38 Sunday 11th August 2019
I would love us to have some DDs in Salt Road livery (or the same green livery), but ideally upgraded to Euro 6 emissions control for use, sooner or later, in B'ham...
I think some Gold E400 MMC or newer versions of E400 Scanias would look nice on this route. :lol:

Re: Double Deckers

Posted: 09:52 Sunday 11th August 2019
by TimBrown
AdamH wrote:
06:43 Sunday 11th August 2019
DD12 wrote:
00:38 Sunday 11th August 2019
I would love us to have some DDs in Salt Road livery (or the same green livery), but ideally upgraded to Euro 6 emissions control for use, sooner or later, in B'ham...
I think some Gold E400 MMC or newer versions of E400 Scanias would look nice on this route. :lol:
Or National Express West Midlands red and maroon livery - its quite a close match to Midland Red 1960s coach and DP livery. How about a through 144 service Birmingham to Malvern once more?

Re: Double Deckers

Posted: 11:03 Sunday 11th August 2019
by MattW
Every time I see a Salt Road bus it's in Malvern or Kempsey...…..

Re: Double Deckers

Posted: 11:48 Sunday 11th August 2019
by willr7
AdamH wrote:
05:21 Saturday 10th August 2019
I believe some of that fleet are heading to the Midlands, but not Worcester and not double-decks! Nine StreetLites to Leicester and three to Potteries have been mentioned elsewhere.
There are also 11 x 2011 Volvo B7RLE departing Manchester (Bolton) today which could also be heading to Leicester.

10 StreetLites were transferred from Manchester to Stoke/Leicester back in 2015 so If there are 12 more StreetLites to transfer from Manchester then my presumption is that as there are 12 of the same batch left at Manchester then Stoke will get 63106-8 & Leicester will get 63111-8 & 63146. ;)

Looking at the UK Buses fleet list, Leicester needs to replace (or upgrade?) approx. 40 vehicles to become fully Euro 6 compliant.

So the 11 B7RLE + 9 StreetLites from Manchester + 9 Streetlite Max's from Worcester will make up 29 vehicles (This means that approx. 10 more vehicles will also be transferred in from elsewhere?)

Also, I would guess that all the streetLites at Manchester are Euro 5 as they are 2013/14 examples so if they are brought to Leicester then they will need to be converted to Euro 6 along with the 5 B7RLEs from Wells + the potential 11 from Manchester (unless they have already been converted)

I do like trying to solve these fleet puzzles :D :lol:

Re: Double Deckers

Posted: 12:58 Sunday 11th August 2019
by Charliedaffin
willr7 wrote:
11:48 Sunday 11th August 2019
AdamH wrote:
05:21 Saturday 10th August 2019
I believe some of that fleet are heading to the Midlands, but not Worcester and not double-decks! Nine StreetLites to Leicester and three to Potteries have been mentioned elsewhere.
There are also 11 x 2011 Volvo B7RLE departing Manchester (Bolton) today which could also be heading to Leicester.

10 StreetLites were transferred from Manchester to Stoke/Leicester back in 2015 so If there are 12 more StreetLites to transfer from Manchester then my presumption is that as there are 12 of the same batch left at Manchester then Stoke will get 63106-8 & Leicester will get 63111-8 & 63146. ;)

Looking at the UK Buses fleet list, Leicester needs to replace (or upgrade?) approx. 40 vehicles to become fully Euro 6 compliant.

So the 11 B7RLE + 9 StreetLites from Manchester + 9 Streetlite Max's from Worcester will make up 29 vehicles (This means that approx. 10 more vehicles will also be transferred in from elsewhere?)

Also, I would guess that all the streetLites at Manchester are Euro 5 as they are 2013/14 examples so if they are brought to Leicester then they will need to be converted to Euro 6 along with the 5 B7RLEs from Wells + the potential 11 from Manchester (unless they have already been converted)

I do like trying to solve these fleet puzzles :D :lol:
I read somewhere a while back that Leicester are also going to recieve several e200 mmcs from potteries but i dont know if this is true anymore

Re: Double Deckers

Posted: 13:20 Sunday 11th August 2019
by willr7
Charliedaffin wrote:
12:58 Sunday 11th August 2019
I read somewhere a while back that Leicester are also going to recieve several e200 mmcs from potteries but i dont know if this is true anymore
Yes, I remember this being mentioned, but I haven't heard any more about it so I'm not sure... There are 9 of the MMCs at Stoke. So adding these to the mix at Leicester would roughly make up the total of vehicles required as long as all the transfers I suggested above happen aswell. :lol: