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Bus and Coach operations, and timetables for The Birmingham and Midland Motor Omnibus Company Limited (BMMO — Midland "Red" Motor Services).
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iansdavies
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Post by iansdavies » 14:28 Tuesday 28th February 2017

hello group has anyone got a idea of how 163 ,169, 193 timetables used to operate , the services ran from chelmsley to birmingham 163 being the first , these routes passed over to wmpte in the mid 1970s, heres hoping you can help thanks :D

Noggin1
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Post by Noggin1 » 10:00 Wednesday 1st March 2017

My timetable booklet for 28 June 1969 until further notice shows, Mondays to Saturdays, the first journey from B'ham (Bus Station, Stand 25) on the 163 at 0540 arriving at Chelmsley Wood (Chelmsley Road/Helmswood Drive) at 0617, then the 193 leaving at 0551 arriving at 0628 at CW (Greenlands Road/Helmswood Drive), then the 169 leaving at 0601 arriving 0638 at CW (Berwicks Lane/Helmswood Road). Then until 2311 these services provide a combined 10 minute frequency to CW (Pine Square), with the 169 leaving B'ham at 1 and 31 minutes past the hour, 193 at 11 and 41 minutes past, and the 163 at 21 and 51 minutes past, before each going on to their above respective terminus arriving 5 minutes after Pine Square. On Fridays and Saturdays there is an extra 163 leaving at 2331 but it terminates at Pine Square.
The return journeys commence 6 minutes after the above arrivals, except for the FS extra which is 5 minutes after. There is no out of service running. On Sundays, the first 169 from B'ham is 0639, then a 163 at 0721, a 193 at 0741, and a 169 at 0801 - this sets a combined 20 minute frequency until 2301, then a short 163 at 2331 to Pine Square.
All full journeys take 37 minutes each way regardless of day or time of day. From B'ham no passenger may be set down until the first bus stop in Bosworth Drive nearest to Tile Cross Road; to B'ham, none picked up after leaving the bus stop in Bosworth Drive nearest to Tile Cross Road.

DD12
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Post by DD12 » 14:19 Wednesday 1st March 2017

That's a superb reply Noggin, - do you have timetable planning experience ?
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Noggin1
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Post by Noggin1 » 15:55 Wednesday 1st March 2017

DD12,
I've never worked in the bus industry, but I do find timetables fascinating. May I take the opportunity of thanking the webmaster for the ever-increasing number of old timetables on this site - someone has noticed.

Back in 1969, I was at school but I found it a very long day, not helped that the 'lunch hour' in those days lasted longer than today. The morning session finished at 12.45 and the afternoon began at 14.10. By chance, a bus could pick me up outside the school at 12.47, deposit me near my home 10 minutes later, then a return would deposit me outside the school about 14.05. This gave me a real break, and Mum's cooking! Pretty lucky for a half hour service, and I think that the good old Midland Red only let me down once.

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AdamH
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Post by AdamH » 19:34 Wednesday 1st March 2017

Noggin1 wrote:
15:55 Wednesday 1st March 2017
...May I take the opportunity of thanking the webmaster for the ever-increasing number of old timetables on this site - someone has noticed...
Thank you, and you're very welcome. I am trying to get a broad range on the site but my personal collection is rather limited at the moment to being mostly Worcester and Hereford area. But we're getting there!

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Post by iansdavies » 19:57 Wednesday 22nd March 2017

thanks noggin thats absolutely superb i really do appreciate youre feedback :D

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